PART TWO
Women and Men at Home and Abroad
People From Both Near and Far
I had a very difficult time trying to figure out in what
order to put all these stories. It
seemed right to put the groups of interviews done at the schools in Parts in
the order they occurred, but what about the order within each Part? Some people were unable to get to a school to
be interviewed by a student. Where should
those stories fit in? It turned out each
Part fell together differently. This one
got divided into Women and Men, each in alpha order, with all the Pullman
people included, both those interviewed by students and those interviewed by
me. There are also other people in Part
Two, ones who live in
Anyway, there are twenty-four stories in Part Two; the ones
with by-lines were written by students in Craig McCormick's Sophomore Honors
English Class at
Now then: when I initially spoke to this first lady about
doing an interview, she kept telling me she would bring books the kids could
look at, but she seemed very hesitant about actually talking with a
student. She finally agreed to do
it. I was amazed at what came out of
that meeting.
By Kim Meinert and Nichole Lovrich
There are many stories about life during the Great Depression and World War II. Many of these stories are told in various forms such as books and movies by those who experienced first-hand the pain as well as the victory. Some of the tales have become famous. Most of them, however, have not. We are here to share with you one of those many untold stories. It is the life of a woman who is seventy-seven years young, Florence Broderick, more commonly known simply as "Cookie Grandma."
When
There were going to be emotions to be dealt with, as well as cultural barriers
to cross. Although the three of us
sitting around the table are all from the same country, thus have very similar
cultures, it was apparent just from looking at the memorabilia in front of
us that Florence had struggled and overcome much more than we had anticipated.
We immediately threw aside our prepared interview questions, as it
was quite obvious that they were not going to suffice.
Getting started was slow at first, but soon we were talking with each
other a mile a minute about life "back then," and before we knew
it, an hour and half had passed, and sadly, it was time to stop.
Here is just a small portion of the interaction between a woman and
two girls who, based upon their experiences, hold very different perceptions
of the world in which they live.
Born on
"When I was growing up, I just assumed that everyone was poor. It never occurred to me that it could be any other way."
Thinking back on it, we shouldn't have been at all surprised that she was unaware of the Great Depression. The fact that Florence hadn't realized she was living during a depression is the same thing as young people today not realizing that they have been in an economic "boom" until about a year ago, when there was no longer a surplus of energy.
On
On
We were amazed to hear from
On
"I didn't have any children
with Robert, my first husband, and I wanted a family. I was just happy to have
another opportunity," she said. Between 1952 and 1961,
Her oldest granddaughter enjoyed
We discovered that just because
someone has retired and raised all their children, it definitely does not mean
they aren't busy.
"It [the purpose of Sad Sack cartoons] was a way to kind of take the tension off of everything and to put a little humor in the war," she said.
When she allowed us to flip through
the pages of the small red book, there was a satisfied glimmer in her eye as we
giggled over the comics. The people
whose signatures cover the inside pages of the small book have come and gone.
They all had their own story to tell, and
"I've never really talked with anyone about my own history because it's very painful. Bob and I didn't talk about our past much while he was alive but I thought it was time, and this interview seemed like a good idea."
A good idea to put it mildly! We enjoyed so much learning about just how hard Americans worked two generations ago to preserve freedom and to make sure their grandchildren had an affluent country to grow up in. We now understand much more about why and how things worked, as well as the many aspects of our lives we take for granted.
Many stories are forgotten, lost,
or misplaced. Florence Broderick's
bittersweet story, however, is still alive and has now been told to be remembered
forever. And just remember,
These next twelve stories are about women who did amazing
things, took on tremendous responsibilities, kept the home front going, moved
all over the country and even to foreign lands, all to do what they needed to
do to support the war effort. I know you
are going to like these ladies. If you
met them all at once, I wonder if you could pick out the one who welded ships? Repaired
airplanes? I am awe-struck at what these
women did at a time when women didn't DO these things. They had all been raised through the Great
Depression and had learned how to make do and use whatever they had on hand. Those lessons stood them well when the
nation's young men went to war. They
were able to step in and make the difference.
Listen to their stories and watch for the reaction of the students who
wrote about them.
EDITH CURTIS
By Kate McElwain, Emily Moers, and Anna Wagoner
Upon walking into English class on the day we were to interview
survivors of World War II, we three felt as much of our class did –
apprehensive at conversing with a stranger, wondering how to fill an hour and a
half with questions, and bewildered as to what we should ask. Relieved to discover that the three of us
would share an interviewee, we dutifully trooped down to the cafeteria, a more
peaceful environment. Edith Curtis, a
sweet lady with an infectious chuckle, soon laid our fears to rest. She came equipped with an outline of what she
felt might interest us. She explained
that her daughter had encouraged her to create a written document of her
memories, and this interview had prompted her to begin to do so. Hardly a peep was heard from us throughout
the period, so well had she organized her thoughts. We sat back and absorbed her story, taking as
many notes as we could while learning that our lives are not so different from
those of two generations previous, at least before the war interrupted everyone's
lives.
Edith grew up in
There were many ways families were
limited during the war. Each citizen was allowed two pairs of shoes per
year. Edith wanted “tenny runners,” but
got Buster Browns instead. At the year's end, the shoes were run through
with holes, a constant reminder of the war. Tires were also rationed as
was meat, though not chicken or fish. Lamb
chops were “such a big treat, and so expensive,” that Edith was allowed to chew
the meat right off the bones. Coffee and sugar were also rationed. Edith's parents were grateful when Edith
turned fourteen so they could drink her ration of coffee. Extra sugar
rations were awarded for canning and “
Girls began to wear shorter skirts. Material was scarce. When the chicken feed was delivered, Edith begged the driver to select sacks of matching color and pattern. Three sacks made a dress, two made a broomstick skirt. Children at that time received no allowance but worked for their spending money. A major source of income was baby-sitting, or “keeping house” as it was called then. Younger children did not generally accompany their parents to weddings, funerals, movies, or other such outings, so sitting jobs were readily available.
At school each morning, Edith and her classmates saluted the flag, or at least they did until the war started. When the war began, it was decided that saluting the flag was too much like Hitler’s salute, so instead the students put their hands over their hearts. Next they had the Lord’s Prayer, and then the principal read some passages from the Bible and told of any job openings that might be available.
Even though younger teenagers weren’t able to fight in the war, they all contributed in their own ways. One boy in a nearby town made a big difference. He was down by the water one day and saw two men getting out of a boat anchored in a nearby cove. He overheard them speaking in German and reported it to the authorities. The two men were arrested and later found to be Nazi spies. Laughing, Edith related how when the boys team from that town came to play in Orono, all the girls flocked around the boy asking for his autograph. He was a local hero.
Kids across
Classes in her school competed against each other in scrap metal and War Bond drives. The winning class got an ice cream party or was dismissed early. For fun, churches got together and put on different activities for the kids in their youth groups such as sleigh rides and dances. On Christmas Eve, they all caroled and visited the sick and the poor, bringing them baskets of food and toys. Movies were a special treat costing only ten cents for kids twelve and under. Newsreels of the war were very popular. Saturday matinees were either a western or a kids’ movie, Shirley Temple being a favorite.
Edith was a Girl Scout and she saved her money every year so she could go to camp In the summer. At one of those camps, they found out the war had ended. “We all started cheering, shouting, singing songs, and everything,” Edith remembers. She canoed across the lake to where her parents were to tell them the good news.
Later in Edith’s life, she married and had four daughters. Her youngest daughter was killed in a tragic motorcycle accident a few years out of high school. Yet Edith has a happy outlook on life and is a woman fun to be with, one to whom you could listen for hours.
We learned of a woman’s life that ran parallel to ours – similar but on another plane. We could relate to her adolescent feelings of awe at the cute trumpet player in the school band. But we became aware of our distinctly different realities when Edith continued that the boy was later killed in action, his empty chair left as a reminder of him. After learning for so many years the historical points, the dates of battles, and the number of people killed, it was a wonderful feeling to be able to picture the personal aspects of World War II.
ALMA DRUFFEL
By Lyndee Giese and Stefany Larsen
On
After the bell had rung, our teacher
went through the list of individuals who were able to attend that morning. After several minutes we, Lyndee Giese and
Stefany Larsen, learned that we would have the privilege of interviewing Mrs.
Alma Druffel of
"I believe this is her,” Lyndee whispered, and of course it was.
We decided to take our interview down to the high school cafeteria. There we began to learn the story of a wonderful woman and her experiences in our country during a significant time in history.
“We were never hungry,”
This part of the interview
surprised both of us to a certain extent.
While preparing for the interview, we had done quite a bit of research
about the Depression and the World War that followed. We had always assumed that everyone in the
country had gone through difficult times, but as we talked to
When we asked
Being in a family full of girls,
However, little did
But, “I wrote to many boys,”
After high school ended in the
spring,
“So, when I tell my kids that, they think, 'Wow, mom lived in a fraternity house,' ” she added with a chuckle.
Again, as in the Depression, Alma
herself was affected very little by the war.
Her entire family was able to stay home, and, living so close, she was
able to see them often.
Both Alma Druffel and this next lady are on the Board of
Directors of Council on Aging & Human Services. When I asked them to come in for an
interview, neither blinked an eye. In
fact, Win ended up on the front page of the Daily News along side Celia Fockler
(next after Win), who was wearing her welder's mask. Win was holding up a model of an airplane and
wearing a T-shirt her family had gotten for her. The shirt showed a giant picture of the
Flying Fortress, an airplane she worked on during the war.
Winnifred Elwood
By Claire Kohler
I enter our English room for first
period with feelings of trepidation and apprehension. Today we are supposed to interview someone who
has survived the Depression and World War II, someone who had an
active
part, however big or small, in helping with the war. We have been assigned partners to interview,
and we have discussed the correct way to interview someone without making
them feel like a "bug under glass," with every aspect of their lives
being poked and prodded and examined in minute detail. We have been advised to "learn about the
person, not just study them," but the difference is completely beyond
me. All I am aware of right now is
the fact that I have to interview a seventy or eighty year old woman without
any knowledge or experience of how to do it.
I enter the classroom and look around. There are about fifteen elderly people sitting in our seats, looking almost as nervous and apprehensive as we do, talking in subdued voices while they study us. In a few minutes, we are all paired off and told to go down to the cafeteria where the acoustics are better and there is more breathing space.
The lady I am going to interview is named Winnifred Elwood. She is short, with gray hair and big green eyes peering out from behind her glasses. I like her immediately, and this feeling of goodwill makes the interview infinitely easier. She speaks softly and shyly and stops to consider the question I¹ve asked her before answering. After we pick a table and get settled, I cautiously start with the basics, not sure how my questioning will be received. I am lucky, however, to be paired with a person who is easy to talk to and willing to tell me about herself without holding anything back. As we get to know each other, the questions flow more freely and it becomes more of a conversation than an interview.
Winnifred Elwood was born in
The trade school where Win went for
three months was located in
As she is remembering these years, Win¹s eyes are turned inward, and I can tell she is more focused on her memories than on me. The day shift and the night shift were alternated every month. As she recalls the hard times on graveyard shift she gazes at me seriously with her big green eyes and then she suddenly smiles up at me shyly as she remembers the parties and fun times she had. Win was a part of the United Service Organization, or USO, a social club that provided the G.I.s somewhere to go for recreation. She attended dances, potlucks, and skating parties, and she went to the hospital to socialize with the soldiers there.
In 1944, after she was done
repairing planes, Win attended Eastern where she took a junior college prep
course. She admits she was really
interested in Botany, but in the 1940¹s there were only a few areas in which
women could major, and Botany was not one of the options at Eastern, so she
chose Education instead. In 1946, she
transferred to WSC in
Today Win lives in
I am extremely impressed by this little lady sitting in front of me. When I asked her what she felt about war today, she replies, "I don¹t think we [the whole world] are trying hard enough to find a prevention." She does not relish the fact that she helped to kill millions of innocent people, and she almost feels guilty for having so much fun during the war. She has shown me that history, a subject I have never particularly enjoyed, can be interesting and fun.
Thank you, Win.
CELIA FOCKLER
By Daron Deonier
At first, I was very apprehensive about the assignment that had been looming
over my head for the past three weeks. Ever
since the very day it was announced that we would be interviewing people who
had lived during World War II, I had been questioning my abilities. I had not questioned my abilities as a writer;
more in question were my abilities to communicate with a stranger, with whom
I had nothing in common. The thought
of interviewing a complete stranger about her life, especially someone who
lived such a different life than I, was more than a little bit frightening. I walked into my English class on a warm Monday
morning and felt strangely intimidated; for there sat a large group of elderly
citizens that we would soon be interviewing. But my intimidation soon turned to elation as
I was introduced to Celia Fockler, my assigned interviewee. Her bright smile quickly quieted my fears and
put me at ease. Well, enough about
me, it is time for you to hear about a woman who has an amazing life story
and an even more amazing personality.
Celia Fockler, affectionately
referred to as Sissy by her friends, was born in 1922, the middle child of her
family. Her two brothers died at a
terribly early age, one passing on when he was three days old, the other dying
upon being born. Celia and her sister were
stars in their hometown of Rainer,
When the war came to fruition,
Celia decided to help the war effort by moving to the
At this time in her life, Celia was twenty-one years old, earning a dollar twenty-five an hour, working seven days a week. Her daily attire included a heavy helmet, metal-toed boots, and leather clothing, which were all required welding attire. Knowing nothing about welding, having no previous training, Celia faced a big challenge. She started the first three weeks of her welding career on the morning shift, as a worker on the tack crew, welding the sides of ships. After those short three weeks, she was moved up to work on the regular welding crew.
The job was not only extremely physically challenging, it also tested her inner strength. Women in her work place were faced with a great challenge: proving they could do a man’s job. The women welders were under constant supervision and scrutiny; a supervisor was always close behind. Celia had to work twice as hard to prove herself.
"Sissy" was the name
monogrammed on her leather work jacket, which she wore proudly. Knowing that she was being a contributing
member of society was fulfilling to her.
Celia also found her job to be exciting; it was an outdoor job where she
met and learned a lot about people. She
formed many close, enduring friendships during her years at the
Upon the completion of the war,
Celia’s life became very different. She
had met her future husband, Stewart Fockler, at an
Celia soon found her calling in
It was on her husband Stewart’s
very ship that the treaty of
Celia feels that her generation was forced to grow up rather quickly and at a young age learned to survive day by day. This lifestyle has contributed to her life philosophy.
"You should look to the future and live each day for its worth."
Celia definitely practices what she preaches. At seventy-nine years of age, Celia stills goes rafting with her family, she has parasailed numerous times, and she has gone ballooning. With all these adventures you’d think that she’d be out of ideas, but she has not yet fulfilled her aspiration to jump out of an airplane.
This next story illustrates how the war invaded the private
lives and plans of both men and women, even those still in school. Sylvia's story includes a look at college
life during the war.
SYLVIA GLADHILL
Sylvia Helper Gladhill was born in
When Sylvia was about fifteen, she and her family went to church one December Sunday in 1941. They had not listened to the radio that morning, but after dinner while her parents rested Sylvia decided to dust mop their front room. She turned the radio on low while she worked and then heard the news. Her thought about the Japanese attack was, "This means war. I can't imagine just letting them do that!"
That evening her family attended a
What did impact her family was sugar rationing. Her mom, cooking for a family of seven, learned to be very inventive. Canned goods were rationed too, although there generally was a feeling among farm people that it wasn't necessary since most folks grew and canned their own. Shoe rationing did cause a problem with five children with growing feet. None of the children were able to have gym shoes. They had just one pair so there was "none of this business of letting them air out," according to Sylvia.
Clothing was a constant challenge too. Sylvia's mom had trouble finding yard goods due to price controls and scarcity of available goods. Yardage manufacturers were allowed to charge more for table cloths than they were for yardage suitable for making clothes. So they made less clothing yardage and more table cloths. People then had to buy the more expensive table cloths to make garments. Gas rationing was a little easier on the Helpers since they got a bigger ration in order to operate their gas-run farm equipment.
Sylvia graduated from high school in 1943 at the age of sixteen. Things that were different due to the war included her country school not being able to publish a year book and not having class plays. Students were encouraged to take math which was helpful for navigation. And they were told they could cut two weeks off the school year so the boys could put in more time at work on the farm or enlist early.
Sylvia started college at the
When the President of the University addressed her Freshman Class in 1943, he said, "Good Morning young ladies and you few gentlemen at the back."
University enrollment had dropped
from twelve thousand to about eight thousand students. The ratio between men and women had gone from
four-men-to-one-woman to four-women-to-one-man.
The men on campus were almost entirely engineers in Navy officer
training programs. They had a
Most of the girls Sylvia knew dated
military men. Her friend Vivian had
dated a young man who had gotten quite serious about her. She was well educated and the boy was from
the hills of
Sylvia lived in a cooperative house in which the girls had assigned duties. Sylvia's job was buying their food. Since sugar, meat, and canned goods were rationed each girl had to bring her ration books to school. By May of 1945 sugar was one of the few food items still rationed. Some girls' sugar stamps had all been used while others had not. So the fair way to divide the remaining stamps at the end of the school year, it seemed, was to cash in all the stamps for sugar and divide the sugar evenly among the girls. Sylvia did that, carefully dividing the sugar into twenty little paper sacks. The very next day sugar rationing ended!
Sylvia was still in college in 1945 when the Japanese surrendered. She lived in a house next to a gas station at the time and clearly recalls hearing the "Ting! Ting! Ting! Ting!" of the gas pumps all day long, as people filled their gas tanks for the first time in almost five years.
This next lady serves as Chairman of the Board of Directors
of Council on Aging & Human Services.
I have attended the Board's meetings for well over a year now and have
yet to see one fail to be run with military precision. Alberta Hill and I reorganized Kate's paper
in order to add some detail she and
ALBERTA HILL
By Kate Hutchinson
Alberta Hill was born in
And enlist she did, along with three hundred and thirty-eight thousand other women who served in World War II. She joined the Womens Army Auxiliary Corps (WAAC), which changed later in 1943 to WAC or Women's Army Corp. The women in the WAAC had the choice of being discharged if they didn't want to be in the WAC. Hill stayed in.
She had Basic Training at
Hill had taught for four years and she sat in Cooks and Bakers classes with two Home Economics graduates from Oregon State College, one who had taught nine years and the other a Dietitian major; a WSC (WSU) graduate who had taught three years; and several other Home Economics majors. Their Cooks and Bakers classes were taught by a woman whose emphasis had been in Clothing and Textiles and the Baker Specialist teacher had demonstrated food equipment in department stores.
Hill's training completed, she was
assigned as a Baker in a WAC company mess hall at
But Alberta Hill did get relief
from that grueling schedule. Unbeknownst
to her, two women in her company who worked for Chaplains reported to their
bosses about her long days and one of them got her transferred to clerical
work, scheduled from eight to five. She
was assigned to the First Student Training Regiment of the
When she first reported as the Major's secretary in S2, there were three people working there, besides her. A day or two later the Major asked her to stay after hours. She feared she had been found wanting.
"Have you been busy?" he asked.
"No," was her honest reply.
"How many people do you think we need out there?"
"One," again her honest reply.
The next day when she reported for work, she was the only one doing so.
Her work included mail checks for security clearance and later on she interviewed returning POWs. The PR portion of her assignment had to do with outgoing information from the Regiment.
"It was an interesting office. We had officers coming in for training who were of equal or higher rank than those who were acting as company COs," she said. Because of the rank of persons in those companies, discipline was handled at the regimental level, another responsibility of the office in which she worked.
While she worked hard, Alberta Hill
of WAC Detachment #2 recalls some good and fun experiences. And yet, the first Christmas she was at
Her second Christmas there,
however, was one of the best she ever had.
The situation had settled down for the women in her Company. There were new officers, the women had gotten
acquainted, and they found ways to make Christmas a happy time. Both Protestants and Catholics attended
Christmas eve services. Some of the women set up two foot-lockers to
serve as beverage bars for Christmas cheer.
On Christmas eve they got on a post bus and
took gifts to women in other WAC detachments.
"The Jewish women on base volunteered for Christmas KP,"
Asked about recollections of funny
things,
Alberta Hill found great value in her military service. When she enlisted she became a part of a group of people from a wide variety of social, economic, cultural, religious, racial, and moral backgrounds. "I found I was not just looking at other people, but I was one of a diverse group."
Fun for Hill, besides sitting on
her bunk and learning to knit along with most of her squad room, also included
opportunities to travel while on furlough.
She saw
She also got acquainted with
Alberta Hill's military career came
to a close after V-J Day ended the war in August of 1945. She was transferred to
She spent the summers of '46, '47,
and '48 at the Square G Ranch in
This next lady did her part in the war effort by working
through the Red Cross to provide things people in war-torn countries needed,
including our military men and women.
Gladys Martin
By Albert Ding and Willie Morrison
Experiences during World War II were very significant and life changing for the people who fought and gave their lives for our country. Too often in the past, we did not give enough credit to those people who stayed behind during the war times and kept our country running. Gladys Martin was one of the many Americans who lived through the tough times and even managed to raise a family during the Depression. When Gladys came to our school for the interview the atmosphere was rather uncomfortable as we were crowded into a corner of our classroom However, with Gladys' smile, along with her open and friendly personality, we were quickly assured that we had nothing to worry about. Thanks to Gladys' friendly personality, we were able to get a clear view of the hardships and the environment during the war times.
Gladys Martin was born in the year
of 1912. Life on the farm near the city
of
Life still remained relatively
basic until she was nineteen and met a young man named Herbert Martin. Shortly after meeting the two were happily
married in the year of 1931. In 1938,
Gladys' first child was born. in very tough times.
A few years later in 1943, her second child was born. Not long after her marriage to Herbert, the
country had slipped into the age known as the Depression. Our young generation cannot even begin to
imagine what life was like during the Depression. However, Gladys provided a glimpse of life
during those difficult years. Gladys
recalls moments when a mere $35 was the only thing between her family and
starvation. She remembers that at one
point she almost lost the $35, and looking back now she smiles, but the stress
during that time was unimaginable.
Gladys also clearly remembers the times during the war when she had to
shop in thrift stores for some basic necessities and how all
Gladys admits that life during
World War II did not affect her
family as badly as some other families, in part because the number of stamp
books that their family received every month was more than enough to provide
for her family. Gladys remembers
instances where she gave away valuable stamps to friends that were not as well
off, simply because she had more than enough for her whole family.
In addition to using rationing stamps, Gladys was lucky enough to be able to obtain fruits and vegetables from the garden at her father's farm. Her father was very helpful during the war times, and Gladys is still very thankful for all the aid she received from him. Gladys was able to preserve fruits from her father's farm by canning, and that was helpful for the difficult months ahead. Since the war began, obtaining essential items such as sugar was only possible through the stamps. At one time, Gladys remembers running out of stamps for sugar, making it impossible to can fruit. Unable to wait the remainder of the month, Gladys traded some shoe stamps to her sister-in-law for sugar stamps. She recalls that it was common practice for friends during the war to trade stamps to each other depending on what was needed.
When asked the question of how well
people were informed during the war, Gladys explains there were only a few
television sets around during the period of the war and most people ended up
relying on the radio for news. Several
years earlier, during the Depression, no one had a television, and radios were
the only source of information. Thus, it
was very hard to receive information until several weeks after it
occurred. Apparently the country as a
whole was very uninformed of the war effort and what
was occurring in other parts of the world.
For instance, the entire
Regardless of how uninformed the
people of the
People throughout the nation
performed small tasks to aid the war effort in
Gladys Martin was no soldier, no weapons specialist, and no wartime commander, but she was a hero. She fought through hard times and came out of the Depression with a healthy family and a good home, not to mention helping others in need. In the future, we will all pass on and be forgotten, but please do not forget her name. Gladys Martin was a hero to be remembered, and we can all learn something from this excellent example of a hardworking, dedicated individual.
When news came over the radio that the war was over, Gladys made a big pan of fudge for her family because she knew she could finally get all the sugar she wanted.
The Dorothy Matson story was written by a student from
DOROTHY MATSON
By Rachel Morgan
As I walked through the rain and up the steps to Dorothy Matson's house, I wasn't quite sure what to expect. All I knew was that I was there to listen to her stories about World War II and compile them into writing. Her dog Nelson greeted me and then I met Dorothy. As I took a step back into the past, little did I realize just how much I would learn.
Dorothy Matson was born in
In just a few days, her life was
changed forever. With three other women,
Dorothy headed east on a train that would take them from
When they arrived at the
Her drill instructors were very strict she remembers, and she got into trouble once for talking in line. Her punishment? To clean the dust bunnies off the floor of one of the lady officers. "There were dust bunnies everywhere," she remembers.
Dorothy was stationed in
Dorothy went into the service soon
after the war started and served until it was over. A piece of information that I found
interesting was the fact that diesel engines weren't allowed in the city of
Even though Dorothy went to beautician school after High School, she didn't use those skills in the service. She went into communications, which she described as "very primitive." The girls were called electricians and their work was very secretive. They couldn't talk about what they were doing for close to two years.
So what were they in charge
of? Dorothy says they just did what they
were told. They made spools of
information for secret communication purposes.
She said the enemy would have had to have a spool to transcribe what the
message was from ship to shore and shore to shore. So the enemy didn't know where the allies
were because of their secret code, but Dorothy and her people could figure out
where the enemy was because they had a cryptologist decode the enemy's codes. She said they sent the spools
"especially to
What an exciting position to be in! I can't imagine what it must have felt like to be a part of sending vital information about decoding to other countries and to not even have a full grasp on what you were even actually doing! They had three shifts working every day and Dorothy said that they didn't leave their post until they were relieved by the next shift or they'd get in trouble. She said they could talk more freely about what they were doing when their commander explained how everything worked. Dorothy noted that once they started using tapes instead of spools, their work went much faster. They then could tape ship to shore and shore to ship.
They had to learn how to solder for their work and a man by the name of Eddy taught them how. He was very dedicated to his work and when he died Dorothy thought, seeing him in his casket, that he should have been holding his soldering iron in his hands instead of his rosary beads.
I was interested to know what they
did for fun on the time they had off.
Dorothy said they often went to the small town of
One time, her friend Mary and she
got off work at
Dorothy and her bunkmates spent a lot of time together and always got along great. They went to restaurants and the Smithsonian Institute. Once they even went to a Burlesque show. She talked a lot about the seasons and the weather. Springtime was "beautiful, just absolutely beautiful" with all the cherry blossoms and dogwood trees in bloom. Everywhere they went they saw the sights and smells of a "glorious" spring. In the winter, the streets and roads would get slick, sometimes with a skiff of snow over them. Dorothy said it was cold a lot of the time.
She told the story of when she and a friend were walking along and all the sudden, two Marines who were drunk that were walking in front of them just rolled off the slick sidewalk and down the bank. She said it was pretty funny. Some other boys came along and retrieved them, but I can just see them laughing at the guys. What a sight!
Dorothy was able to stand across the street from the White House during President Roosevelt's funeral. That was as close as you could get to the President's home during the war. She said she liked the president and his wife and naturally felt sad when he died. She thought they were "splendid people," and Dorothy believed he did the best he could while he was the President. When asked how she dealt with it, she responded, "You just took it in your stride. You went on."
Trying to do something fun every weekend was part of the routine in Dorothy's life at the time. Once they visited George Washington's home and they even went to a Notre Dame football game. She recalled it being a fun experience. The group of six of them found the stadium to be very crowded, but once they found some seats, they rooted for Notre Dame all the way!
I asked her where she was when the war was over. She said in D.C., and they heard about it over the radio. So they all went into town, laid newspapers out on the curb, sat down and watched people get sloppy. I was quite amused at that term but I didn't know what she was talking about. She said it meant people unbuttoned and took off their uniform jackets, untucked their shirts, and threw their hats in the air. In other words, they were allowed to look sloppy. I can picture hundreds of people having a big party enjoying the end of war on the streets of D.C. What a time of celebration - to get sloppy!
Dorothy, who was a Second Class
Petty Officer when she retired from the Navy, is also very proud of her
brother, Dale Henry Sevier. Dale was an
automobile mechanic for many years when he came home from the war. He served in
Dorothy said she'd never forget something he once told her. "If you've fixed one motor, you can fix them all no matter what the size."
She also told me her favorite story
of his. When he was in
Dorothy laughed as she told me what an officer later told her brother. "Sevier," he said, "I don't care, but the Captain said not to get out on the highway with a tank anymore."
Dale Sevier was awarded the Bronze
Star. The Citation he received with the
medal reads, "For meritorious service in connection with military
operations against an armed enemy from
I was privileged to see his Bronze Star up close along with his dog tag and
other medals. As I looked at those
pieces, thoughts ran through my head. So
many people sacrificed so much during World War II and now I take my freedom
for granted too often. How truly grateful
I am for the men and women that served our country.
As my time with Dorothy came to a close, I asked if she had any advice for young women going into the service. "It's an experience," she said. "It depends whether you want to go to college or join the service."
Dorothy still happily resides in
Here is some insight into the life of the occupation forces
after the war ended, how teachers were drawn into the
national effort to re-establish
ESTHER PETERSON
By Kathryn Kastrinos
Many people reflect on battlefields and fighting when they hear of World War II, but while interviewing Esther Peterson I got a glimpse of a whole other story. Esther Peterson is a woman with many stories, many stories that unlock her background and her motives.
Esther was an ordinary elementary
school teacher until she got the letter of her life. In this letter, she was informed that she was
being recruited to teach at a military base in
Esther grew up in the serene state of
After a few weeks of packing and
getting ready, she arrived in
Upon arriving in
There were two third-grade teachers and they each had thirty-nine students. After six weeks, another teacher was hired and for the rest of the school year they each had only twenty-six students. Some of the children had never been to school before since they had lived all of their lives on military bases.
At this point I was curious if
Esther felt any awkwardness, being on a military base. She said, "